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Post by Solange Fournier on Apr 26, 2006 6:38:30 GMT -5
*Hugs Jolie*
Er... I mean...
*Whistles*
I know what you mean about a trained ear. And you're right, her natural voice isn't bad, she just hasn't had training for ages. She hadn't had lessons since she was in the children's chorus when she got the part and she had only one lesson after she found out. Personally I don't think that's enough.
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Post by Jolie Beauvais on Apr 26, 2006 16:26:11 GMT -5
Haha. Thank you. And I was just watching it again and her vibrato...it's kind of old lady-ish. Last February I performed Beethoven's Mass in C at Carnegie Hall with my touring choir mixed in with another touring choir. The thing was, my choir is only high school students and this other choir was all adults. I learned a lot about old lady vibrato during that experience. Lol. There is just a point in time when women can no longer sing soprano without it being all air and vibrato. It makes me laugh. Anyway, I'm not a big soprano fan myself. Unless you have a really amazing singer, sopranos are generally scratchy and just annoying. And they're usually either way too loud or way too quiet, which annoys me. And they're always the stupidest section in the choir because they almost ALWAYS have the melody....except for maybe Bass 2 because they usually just sing low Es and thats the end of that. Haha. Obviously, I don't sing soprano on the regular basis. I'm considered a "mezzo soprano", but I really don't know why they title it that. I sing alto most of the time. Haha. Not to sound stuck up, but I have a big range because I've been singing since...forever and I find soprano to be the least desirable voice part. I'm pretty sure that there is only one soprano in the whole world that I like right now. Here name is Angela Gheorghiu. I don't know if you're familiar with her. She's an opera singer. She is AMAZING. But other then her, I hate sopranos. Lol. youtube.com/watch?v=A6nCJEJFBPw&search=Angela%20Gheorghiu%20la%20traviata^ Now that's the REAL soprano. ^ This is a scene of Angela Gheorghui from La Traviata (my absolute favorite opera.  ) |
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Post by Thérèse Dupassé on Apr 26, 2006 19:10:04 GMT -5
Not a singer, heh, just popping in to comment... Why, why, WHY must everyone copy that Worth dress from Empress Elizabeth's portrait by Winterhalter? The dress in the clip from La Traviata, the dress Christine wears in the movie for "Think of Me"... Really now. (Actual painting in question here www.jci.cc/images/33/30/Empress%20Sisi.jpg) Back to your regularly scheduled discussion of Emmy Rossum's voice. |
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Post by Solange Fournier on Apr 27, 2006 8:06:28 GMT -5
Ha ha, I'm a mezzo too, but I end up with soprano parts. I also have a rather large range (I can sing most of the male Phantom parts at the right pitch) and I can get an Eb above the treble stave. I prefer mezzo parts, my voice has a better timbre at that range, but I do like to sing soprano.
Parts I'd love to do: Isolde from Tristan and Isolde, Carmen from Carmen and of course Christine, but that one will never happen because the rights will never be released.
Angela Gheorghui sounds great in La Traviata. I <3 Verdi.
Oh and I agree about Sissi's dress. And it doesn't fit into the movie, it's the wrong period for Hannibal.
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Post by Jolie Beauvais on Apr 27, 2006 14:47:56 GMT -5
I know what you mean with the timbre of your voice sounding better on lower parts. Haha. The reminds me. There is this Baritone in my choir and we're singing the Chichester Psalms by Leonard Bernstein. I don't know if you're familiar with the piece, but it's about 15 minutes long with three movements and it's in Hebrew. Anyway, there is an ongoing solo writte nfor a countertenor or a boy soprano. Well, we have neither so this baritone decided that he was oging ot sing the whole thing in falsetto. Now, it doesn't SOUND bad, but it looks absolutely ridiculous because here you have this 6'2" buff teenage boy singing these high notes. It's so hilarious. Anyway, I think Carmen would be such a great part to play. I would kill to have a chance at that role. Also, I thikn the reason that they use that dress is because it's just pretty. Haha.
(By the way, I'm the stereotypical vocalist. I don't know my range in notes. Haha. All I know is 4 octaves....4 octaves somewhere. Lol.)
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Post by Solange Fournier on Apr 28, 2006 1:02:45 GMT -5
4 octaves! Wow! I can get three, sometimes three and a half, but that's about it.
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Post by Madame Giry on Apr 30, 2006 15:27:52 GMT -5
Back to the vibrato. tehe...my voice teacher told me that experienced vocalists have good vibratos, not too strong, but strong enough to hear. It makes the music song more...something, forgot the word, but less plain I suppose, no matter what the music. So I would say that her vibrato is pretty good, since most singers don't even worry about it, tehehe.
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Post by Solange Fournier on Apr 30, 2006 23:09:23 GMT -5
It reminds me of my vibrato when I started, though, kinda like a machine gun! I'm luckier than most singers, though, because I HAVE to do it for flute and saxophone and with flute it's extremely similar to vocal, so I know how to do it properly. Emmy's vibrato is the sort of someone who's just learning how to do it. It's not heaps controlled at the moment, with 12 months practice she'd have it perfect.
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Post by Madame Giry on May 1, 2006 8:18:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I've noticed how some singers try to force their vibarto in a way, I suppose that is a bit how it sounds. Fortunately, my voice teacher did exercises with me that...brought out the vibrato naturaly.
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Post by Jolie Beauvais on May 2, 2006 19:43:22 GMT -5
Argh, I'm back. Sorry about that. Vibrato is a beautiful thing...when it's done right. I'm very familiar with the machine gun technique too Solange. Lol.
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Post by phantomsbride1 on May 9, 2006 14:43:57 GMT -5
Emmy Rossum has the sweetness and naievty that suits the role of Christine Daae, but she does not neccessarily have the emotion or sometimes the power needed for some of the songs, which are vocally demanding in places. I should know! I am a first soprano, and like Emmy, I have been training since I was 7. My voice, like hers, is semi-operatic. The role of Christine has always been my favourite musical part to sing, I think because it is so challenging in places. Although, when I played the part of Cosette in 'Les Miserables' last summer, I found that almost as challenging as Christine- weird!
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Post by alyna on Jun 16, 2006 18:32:48 GMT -5
Back to an earlier part of the conversation: Christine didn't just sing in a children's chorus, though, Solange. Later on in her bio it says she's sung in 20 different operas in five languages. So it's not as if she's inexperienced.
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